rajmehrotra
07-05 11:45 AM
What has happened has happened. Maybe USCIS and/or DOS did goof up. Or maybe they really did want to reduce the backlog and use up all the available visas, and with all the good faith they could muster, worked themselves into a frenzy and on morning of July 2nd, they realized their blunder.
All the talk of lawsuits and class action, IMHO, is just a gravy train by the lawyers and for the lawyers. We, the 485 filers will just extras in their lush production. What kind of remedy do we expect? The Visa Bulletin is ex cathedra guidance, but subject to revision, even if there is no precedent for such revision. There is no law that spells out the formulation of the monthly Visa Bulletins. It is merely an administrative guidance tool, no different from a train schedule, with all of its implicit caveats.
Anyhow, hard as it is, we have to hunt for the silver lining in this episode. I think if this story got enough traction as a shining example of shoddy treatment of people who respect and follow the law, and contribute positively, in every sense of the word, to the well being of the United States, we will have it in play. Intervention from the Executive and Legislative branch could then be elicited. Individually, all of us should lay out our cases, respectfully and in good detail, to the Senators and Congressmen of our areas, to let them gauge the enormity of the problem at hand. This would be dream issue for the Senators and Congress people to attend to if it gains the critical mass. Doing whatever is required to right this wrong has no downside for any of them. They can even credit themselves for somehow rescuing a remedy out of the CIR fiasco. They can be the heroes here.
The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal have already run the story. We need to build up on this. Even the Lou Dobbs and law-and-order types in the public arena can be roped in on this one. After all, we are trying to immigrate the right way, by fastidiously following the law, and dropping significant chunks of dollars all around while doing so.
If our efforts lead to recapturing of unused prior-year visa numbers, a relaxation in per-country limits, a delay on the filing-fee increases, and perhaps some movement on the SKIL Bill, we will have a net gain.
All the talk of lawsuits and class action, IMHO, is just a gravy train by the lawyers and for the lawyers. We, the 485 filers will just extras in their lush production. What kind of remedy do we expect? The Visa Bulletin is ex cathedra guidance, but subject to revision, even if there is no precedent for such revision. There is no law that spells out the formulation of the monthly Visa Bulletins. It is merely an administrative guidance tool, no different from a train schedule, with all of its implicit caveats.
Anyhow, hard as it is, we have to hunt for the silver lining in this episode. I think if this story got enough traction as a shining example of shoddy treatment of people who respect and follow the law, and contribute positively, in every sense of the word, to the well being of the United States, we will have it in play. Intervention from the Executive and Legislative branch could then be elicited. Individually, all of us should lay out our cases, respectfully and in good detail, to the Senators and Congressmen of our areas, to let them gauge the enormity of the problem at hand. This would be dream issue for the Senators and Congress people to attend to if it gains the critical mass. Doing whatever is required to right this wrong has no downside for any of them. They can even credit themselves for somehow rescuing a remedy out of the CIR fiasco. They can be the heroes here.
The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal have already run the story. We need to build up on this. Even the Lou Dobbs and law-and-order types in the public arena can be roped in on this one. After all, we are trying to immigrate the right way, by fastidiously following the law, and dropping significant chunks of dollars all around while doing so.
If our efforts lead to recapturing of unused prior-year visa numbers, a relaxation in per-country limits, a delay on the filing-fee increases, and perhaps some movement on the SKIL Bill, we will have a net gain.
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kishdam
01-08 12:41 PM
Do we need photo copies (about originals - having original labor is not possible it would have been submitted with I140; most employer keep the original I140 as well). Some companies dont provide copies of labor or I140.
Is it risky to change jobs and invoke AC21 in this situation? (This is the scenario: labor, I140 is approved. I485 is pending for six+ months. EAD and AP are approved and are with cadidate; have six months pay stubs/tax info to prove that have been original labor sponsored employer for six months after filing I485).
Thanks.
Is it risky to change jobs and invoke AC21 in this situation? (This is the scenario: labor, I140 is approved. I485 is pending for six+ months. EAD and AP are approved and are with cadidate; have six months pay stubs/tax info to prove that have been original labor sponsored employer for six months after filing I485).
Thanks.
Alabaman
03-26 02:55 PM
...and whats this poll going to do for us? I agree. Could we include location also in this poll. Salary & Location.
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masterji
01-12 12:43 AM
If your application is excessively delayed, you can always enter using a valid AP. Gurus correct me if I am wrong.
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greyhair
06-21 09:31 AM
In 2001, Congress passed a bill called American Competitiveness for 21st Century. This bill recaptured all unused/wasted green cards between 1992 to 2000. These recaptured green card numbers were suppose to be applied for EB by distributing them from 2001 to 2005. As the result starting 2001 you see higher than 140K green cards numbers allocated. However, those additional green cards which were suppose to be applied starting 2001 were wasted, in addition to the green card numbers in 2006 and 2007. Also, my understanding of the law is that if in an year, green number is not utilized in FB, in the last quarter of the year that green card visa number could flow to EB . Likewise, if a green card number is not utilized in EB, in the last quarter the unused green card could flow to FB.
I read on this forum that starting 2001 (after the unused visa numbers were captured the last time) the total of these unused/wasted green card numbers from EB + FB is around 316K. Hope this clarifies your question.
But don't count on any new law to recapture green card visas outside of CIR. It is not going to happen. IV core team said that the administration, and both Republican and Democratic lawmakers are opposed to do anything outside of CIR.
Here is today's news in Politico indicating the same thing -
Jon Kyl: Obama holding border 'hostage' - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38789.html)
If Administration can tie high profile subject such as border security with CIR, is there any chance that lawmakers will let Recapture through (outside of CIR)? I don't think so.
I have often heard about visa recapture in these forums, and always that there were lost visa numbers. I came across a DHS site yesterday with statstics on GCs issued, and must admit I am a bit confused about what visa recapture means. The site is DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009 (http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR09.shtm) . Looking at table 6 (Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 2000 to 2009), we get the following data on EB and FB issuances.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
I read on this forum that starting 2001 (after the unused visa numbers were captured the last time) the total of these unused/wasted green card numbers from EB + FB is around 316K. Hope this clarifies your question.
But don't count on any new law to recapture green card visas outside of CIR. It is not going to happen. IV core team said that the administration, and both Republican and Democratic lawmakers are opposed to do anything outside of CIR.
Here is today's news in Politico indicating the same thing -
Jon Kyl: Obama holding border 'hostage' - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38789.html)
If Administration can tie high profile subject such as border security with CIR, is there any chance that lawmakers will let Recapture through (outside of CIR)? I don't think so.
I have often heard about visa recapture in these forums, and always that there were lost visa numbers. I came across a DHS site yesterday with statstics on GCs issued, and must admit I am a bit confused about what visa recapture means. The site is DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009 (http://www.dhs.gov/files/statistics/publications/LPR09.shtm) . Looking at table 6 (Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 2000 to 2009), we get the following data on EB and FB issuances.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 235,092 231,699 186,880 158,796 214,355 212,970 222,229 194,900 227,761 211,859 2,096,541
EB 106,642 178,702 173,814 81,727 155,330 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 144,034 1,574,894
Total 341,734 410,401 360,694 240,523 369,685 459,847 381,310 357,076 394,272 355,893 3,671,435
if we we were to take deltas from the fb cap of 226k and eb cap of 140k, the scenario looks as follows, where a -ive number indicates over allocation.
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB -9,092 -5,699 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 -1,761 14,141 163,459
EB 33,358 -38,702 -33,814 58,273 -15,330 -106,877 -19,081 -22,176 -26,511 -4,034 -174,894
Total 24,266 -44,401 5,306 125,477 -3,685 -93,847 -15,310 8,924 -28,272 10,107 -11,435
As we can see, cumulatively from 2000-09, 11,435 more visas have been given than actually permitted. Particularly in EB 174k excess visas were given.
I'm curious to know, what recapture means, when it seems visas have not been lost.
The only case for recapture is if we only count the years visas were under allocated, and ignore the years it was overallocated. The scenario would look as follows
Year 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 Total
FB 0 0 39,120 67,204 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 180,011
EB 33,358 0 0 58,273 0 0 0 0 0 0 91,631
Total 33,358 0 39,120 125,477 11,645 13,030 3,771 31,100 0 14,141 271,642
So are we trying to recapture 271k visas from this calculation?
If the experts could shed some light on this, that would be great.
GCNirvana007
04-07 03:40 PM
Hi,
My client is a TARP fund received bank.I am planning to go India for 3 weeks in may.My visa expires in Aug09.
I have new H1 extension for 3 years.
--If I go for visa stamping will it be a problem as I am workig for TARP received bank.
--If I don't go for visa stamping and planning to comeback with old visa, will it be a problem at Port Of Entry as my client is TARP received bank and I am on H1B.
There is no rule in paper yet not to allow H1B workers in TARP to enter USA. Having said that, you belong into the category of every other legal H1B immigrant.
My client is a TARP fund received bank.I am planning to go India for 3 weeks in may.My visa expires in Aug09.
I have new H1 extension for 3 years.
--If I go for visa stamping will it be a problem as I am workig for TARP received bank.
--If I don't go for visa stamping and planning to comeback with old visa, will it be a problem at Port Of Entry as my client is TARP received bank and I am on H1B.
There is no rule in paper yet not to allow H1B workers in TARP to enter USA. Having said that, you belong into the category of every other legal H1B immigrant.
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GCBy3000
07-06 12:00 PM
asked both the two questions posed by fellow members.
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ponnuswamyp
06-30 07:31 PM
1) did it myself..
2) yep i changed address, no rfes for anything..
Eb3Retro, Did you sign G-28 initially for your (previous employer's) attorney to represent? if so how did you change the representation?
2) yep i changed address, no rfes for anything..
Eb3Retro, Did you sign G-28 initially for your (previous employer's) attorney to represent? if so how did you change the representation?
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ashkam
11-29 01:38 PM
I have registered on USCIS website for I-485, AP and EAD. When I logged on today I saw last updated date modified to 11/25/2007.
Email notification for all the registerd cases is turned on. I did not receive any email notification for the updates
Just wondering if some one else in the same boat not receiving emails.
I have given my hotmail email ID, if that matters ?
Any Idea ...
It does work and they only send an email for a hard LUD (when there is a material change in status).
Email notification for all the registerd cases is turned on. I did not receive any email notification for the updates
Just wondering if some one else in the same boat not receiving emails.
I have given my hotmail email ID, if that matters ?
Any Idea ...
It does work and they only send an email for a hard LUD (when there is a material change in status).
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stemcell
07-14 04:17 PM
Thanks for the update paskal.
It was just what i needed to make my mind...i am bored to death in this small town finishing my waiver hoping for this piece of legislation.( no hopes of my EB2 anyway:rolleyes:).
It was just what i needed to make my mind...i am bored to death in this small town finishing my waiver hoping for this piece of legislation.( no hopes of my EB2 anyway:rolleyes:).
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panky72
06-25 05:07 PM
sure, pls verify with lawyer to be safe
common consensus seems to be -->
if u have a valid/unexpired h1 petition, then even after using AP, u can continue to use the H1 for 'work authorization' ( u dont need to use EAD at the same employer).
But after using AP, officially ur status is 'parolee' and not H1-B. (official status of entry as put on i94 doc)
After using AP, u can further extend ur H1 if u want to -> in this case your status officially changes to H1b from parolee.
After using AP, if u desperately need to get back on H1 (for whatever reason) -> u can either extend ur H1 or amend ur H1, both these will put u back on H1.
Some people also say if u have used AP , but still have a valid h1 petition and desperately want to get back to H1, then u cud go to a consulate abroad, get ur h1 visa stamped and reenter and once again ur officially back on H1 ( seems valid, but i dont know anyone who tried this)
hope this helps...
I agree with bekugc. I had a consultation with my attorney few days ago and he told me essentially the same thing.
common consensus seems to be -->
if u have a valid/unexpired h1 petition, then even after using AP, u can continue to use the H1 for 'work authorization' ( u dont need to use EAD at the same employer).
But after using AP, officially ur status is 'parolee' and not H1-B. (official status of entry as put on i94 doc)
After using AP, u can further extend ur H1 if u want to -> in this case your status officially changes to H1b from parolee.
After using AP, if u desperately need to get back on H1 (for whatever reason) -> u can either extend ur H1 or amend ur H1, both these will put u back on H1.
Some people also say if u have used AP , but still have a valid h1 petition and desperately want to get back to H1, then u cud go to a consulate abroad, get ur h1 visa stamped and reenter and once again ur officially back on H1 ( seems valid, but i dont know anyone who tried this)
hope this helps...
I agree with bekugc. I had a consultation with my attorney few days ago and he told me essentially the same thing.
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Pagal
11-22 04:08 AM
Hello,
FWIW do check if you need to change terminals ... now most international connections are managed through Terminal 5 (where you don't need any visa as you move from one gate to other) ... if you do need to change the terminal, then its a different story...
FWIW do check if you need to change terminals ... now most international connections are managed through Terminal 5 (where you don't need any visa as you move from one gate to other) ... if you do need to change the terminal, then its a different story...
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ApVish
09-16 03:25 PM
I would say don't put too much emphasis on these kind of stories, if the CIR bill is not going to be worked on then why did the senator schedule this meeting ? just for fun ?!
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=4057
I am not optimistic that something will come out real soon, but at the same time, I think something will definitely happen, at least the piece meal approach
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/hearing.cfm?id=4057
I am not optimistic that something will come out real soon, but at the same time, I think something will definitely happen, at least the piece meal approach
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rameshvaid
04-07 10:30 AM
You should be getting the cards with in this week. A friend of mine got them within 10 days of getting the mail.
Congrats and start celebrating.
rv
Congrats and start celebrating.
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javadeveloper
08-10 03:10 PM
Hi All,
I have one question. I have 140 and 485 concurrently applied. If there's an rfe o 140 will they ask for paystubs ? I have some personal problems recently and I dont have paystubs for about two months.
Please advise.
As per my knowledge 2 things considered for 140
1.Company's ability to pay
2.Whether the candiate is really qualified enough (like Education and Experiance) for the position they mentioned in labor - a)If labor petition asks for bachelors , the candidate should have bechelors or higher education b) if the labor petition asks for 1 year experiance , the candidate should have 1 year experiance (this exp excludes the exp from sponsoring company I guess)prior to the PD.
Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
I have one question. I have 140 and 485 concurrently applied. If there's an rfe o 140 will they ask for paystubs ? I have some personal problems recently and I dont have paystubs for about two months.
Please advise.
As per my knowledge 2 things considered for 140
1.Company's ability to pay
2.Whether the candiate is really qualified enough (like Education and Experiance) for the position they mentioned in labor - a)If labor petition asks for bachelors , the candidate should have bechelors or higher education b) if the labor petition asks for 1 year experiance , the candidate should have 1 year experiance (this exp excludes the exp from sponsoring company I guess)prior to the PD.
Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
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CheckRaise
10-12 11:28 AM
If I were you I wont try and get confrontational with the employer HR or attorneys as
you will need their help in the future. They cant "sell" your approved labor(as in the past), it belongs to you and you only. Your priority date would be the day you filed your labor so that doesnt change. Just keep politely pestering them with case info give then reasonable (or more than reasonable time) before you give up. Sorry I cant be much of help here and no unfortunately cant post any screenshot only the HR and attorney has access to the system. Good luck!
Thanks for the good words. My patience is wearing thin as this has been going on for since the start of the year and I have seen PERM applications filed later than mine getting approved. My concern has to do more with the employer keeping me in the dark about the outcome and at the time H1 expires just lets me GO citing rejection or audit!! You can call me paranoid as the filing hasnt materialized and me in the 7th year just adds to the distress.
you will need their help in the future. They cant "sell" your approved labor(as in the past), it belongs to you and you only. Your priority date would be the day you filed your labor so that doesnt change. Just keep politely pestering them with case info give then reasonable (or more than reasonable time) before you give up. Sorry I cant be much of help here and no unfortunately cant post any screenshot only the HR and attorney has access to the system. Good luck!
Thanks for the good words. My patience is wearing thin as this has been going on for since the start of the year and I have seen PERM applications filed later than mine getting approved. My concern has to do more with the employer keeping me in the dark about the outcome and at the time H1 expires just lets me GO citing rejection or audit!! You can call me paranoid as the filing hasnt materialized and me in the 7th year just adds to the distress.
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gc_chahiye
07-09 04:31 PM
What about those whose PD is 2006 or later and DID file I-485?!?
What a waste of poll!
EB2-India has been retrogressed throughout 2006. If your PD is 2006, how did you file your I-485? Are you counting July 2007 filing? Dont count that, see the first post
What a waste of poll!
EB2-India has been retrogressed throughout 2006. If your PD is 2006, how did you file your I-485? Are you counting July 2007 filing? Dont count that, see the first post
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gcForV
07-12 10:57 AM
As other mentioned sending a certified letter to all senators/congress would be a good idea.
sending them all in a 2-3 days span would be good.
sending them all in a 2-3 days span would be good.
qtoask
07-11 01:03 AM
Its support of every single person who has the heart made it possible... You can pat on your back!!!
English_August : well done co-ordinating...I salute you guys!
English_August : well done co-ordinating...I salute you guys!
peer123
07-19 07:43 AM
Read my posts on this subject in the archives and do not start new threads on the same topic. It helps keeping information in one place.
papu can you please add the link to that thread.
papu can you please add the link to that thread.
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